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Bosendorfer Imperial Grand Library for Genos

Started by PdeMats, September 18, 2018, 08:53:53 PM

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svpworld

I do love these posts!   Well, as a Genos owner I also am lucky enough to own the MODX as well as a NORD Electro 5D.  First of all don't feel disappointed, as the Genos has one of my favourite piano sounds, the C7 which is not available on the MODX or even the Montage!  As has been pointed out across the forum, the Genos is quite a different category of instrument to say the MODX or Montage, as is something like the CP pianos or the Clavinovas.   The MODX has many of the voices you find in Genos, but the Genos offers many additional acoustic sounds such as the Kino strings, resonator guitars, woodwind and brass/reed super articulation voices, live! drums and much more. The MODX excels more on synth sounds AND because many of the performances contain multiple layers of sounds, you do get bigger bolder sounds... BUT such voice architecture wouldn't really work on Genos.  Genos has been designed to be very easy to use, you can layer up to 16 voices in Genos using the built in sequencer and not lose anything when doing so - this is a lot more complex on Montage or MODX since many of the voices already use multiple parts spread over multiple midi channels.  One reason that Yamaha probably decided against putting a sequencer in these synths. On the subject of NORD, I do love the enormous free online sound library, especially the pianos.  However I do think that the Genos and MODX have better quality, more finesse and nuance in their sounds (due to the enormous size of the samples used). Even the biggest pianos on NORD are surprisingly very small in file size compared to synths. They do sound fantastic of course, especially live or on stage, although I find Yamaha pianos more expressive.  For true piano fantatics the new CP73 and CP88 stage pianos sound incredible, because they are fine tuned for that specific application. Back to Genos, the keybed of the Genos is far superior to the MODX, so I often control the MODX from the Genos's keyboard. 
I love the Genos for its immediacy, I can quickly sketch ideas or skeletons of songs using Genos... the interface is fantastic, everything has been designed for this purpose, a digital workstation.  Granted if you want to get deeper into sound editing, fine tuning effects or create massive synth sounds then you need a better tool for the job, hence MODX or Montage... or any other dedicated synth. 
Finally the Bosendorfer piano, it comes with the new CP stage pianos and I've downloaded it on the MODX (its the same as I had on the previous Montage).  You also get it free for NORD.  It's a nice piano, not as bright as Yamaha pianos, more woody and has a lot more detail and richness in the mid range.   Its possible Yamaha may in the future offer it (free or at a price) for Genos as an extra voice pack, OR they could keep it in the bag for the next Genos mk2!  However I really don't miss having it on Genos, the C7 more than makes up for it and if you look around there are plenty of additional piano voices that can be downloaded, some free for Genos.  Yamaha of course have taken over Bossendorfer, hence why its now cropping up on their boards. 
Ok so I probably haven't done myself any favours for adding to the rant, but I thought I'd add my contribution :-).  Most of all, let's enjoy these instruments and feel very happy that such technology and features were completely unheard of just a few years ago.  Looking back at my Yamaha PS30 I can see just how far we've come!

Simon

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Thanks very much, svpworld, for this very competent contribution. It offers a bit insight on what Yamaha might follow in their model strategies, technically and marketing wise. I mean, there must be a feature differentiation if a company sells several dozens of instruments with a keybed. In the end, along the price scale - you get what you pay - and what you need (i.e. an arranger or digital piano or a synthi or kind of hybrides). Given this background it's sometimes hard for me to follow complain threats in this forum that start with "Why hasn't Yamaha integrated this and that in my model, will it come with a firmware upgrade?"