Multipad live control?

Started by Keyboardister, May 28, 2018, 04:29:41 PM

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Keyboardister

[I apologize, I posted it here and not under multipad by mistake]

I tried to make the style cutoff affect the multipad as well but I can only choose R123+left so what happens is that when I make
the cutoff effect the multipad doesnt change and so it doesnt give the right result for me. Is it possible to affect the multipads too?
Genos

JohnS (Ugawoga)

Hi
I use registrations for the styles and when changing registrations , I save the multipad volume to  0 and then it does not play or affect the next registration number .
I think this is what you mean

So when changing registration the pad will be gone until you come back to the reistration number.
You just have to work out where you want the pads to cut off.


All the best
john :)
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DerekA

I think you're talking about using live control to affect the cutoff frequency / resonance of the multipad parts as well as the L, R1, R2 and R3 panel voices.

I don't think you can do this. For some reason, the multipad parts are real second-class citizens; you can adjust their volume on the fly, but not much else.
Genos

Keyboardister

Oh I see, thanks for the info. I hope Yamaha improves it one day...
Genos

Joe H

You can add ANY continuous Controller message to Multi Pads including CC94 for DSP1 (XG Variation Effect) if you want to use the Multi Pad with a specific style.

1. Open Multi Pad Creator
2. Select the Pad you want to edit
3. Select any CC message and then press INSERT (it will create a duplicate message)
4. Edit the duplicate message and change it to CC 71 for Resonance or CC74 for Filter Cut-Off
5. You can listen to your changes before you save.

Joe H

Music is the Universal Language!

My Article: Using Multi Pads in registrations. Download Regs, Styles & MPs:  http://psrtutorial.com/music/articles/dancemusic.html

DerekA

That's true Joe, but I think the OP wanted to use the live controllers. I can imagine having a multipad loop and varying the cutoff / resonance in real time could be quite satisfying, since you can't create custom arpeggio patterns.

From my reading of the data manual, it's not even possible to send MIDI messages to the multipads in real time, because they can't be hooked up to a receive channel.

I do wonder what is so 'special' about the multipads that makes them such a closed book.
Genos

Joe H

DerekA

Actually it can be done with an external controller.  See the attached screenshot.  I can control, Volume, Pan, Reverb, Chorus, Variation Effect, Resonance, Filter-cutoff, Attack and Release high EQ and low EQ... REAL-TIME with my PC1600x controller.  I can change the send channel on the fly so I can quickly access any of the 4 Pads.

One of the programmers here on the forum once characterized the Multi Pad recorder / player as a crippled sequencer.  It is quite possible for Yamaha to add Multi Pad control to the keyboard Mixing Console and include all the editing parameters available for songs and styles.

Joe H

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Music is the Universal Language!

My Article: Using Multi Pads in registrations. Download Regs, Styles & MPs:  http://psrtutorial.com/music/articles/dancemusic.html

Joe H

I forgot to attach the other screen showing the system parameters.  You might have to turn Local Control Off for the Multi Pads.  I originally created this MIDI configuration to more quickly mix my custom Multi Pads and haven't really used it for real-time control... but it does work for that.

The thing I found is that when I make edits with the external controller, if I open Multi Pad Creator those changes will not be not show up or be saved.

Joe H

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Music is the Universal Language!

My Article: Using Multi Pads in registrations. Download Regs, Styles & MPs:  http://psrtutorial.com/music/articles/dancemusic.html

DerekA

So .. 'Extra' parts 2, 3, 4 and 5 map to the multipads?? Who knew! (Except you)
Genos