Convert .ppi to .ppf

[imzain786]

Dear all,
i hope you are fine.
can any one tell me, i found my customized  .ppi expansion file of my PSR s970, how can i import or view this file without installation on keyboard.
i want to check , what is inside this .ppi file .
how can i check or make editable or any way to convert .ppi to .ppf
please help me soon

regards
zain

[zionip]

Hi Zain,

You can convert PPF file to PPI file through the use of YEM (Yamaha Expansion Manager), but not from PPI file to PPF file.

Please read the following thread for further details:
https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,41071.msg323185.html#msg323185

Thanks,
Paul

[imzain786]

Dear zionip,
how can i check this file ? i don't have any idea about it. what is inside in this folder.
is there any way to check this

[DerekA]

Sorry, you cannot do *anything* with a ppi file except install it onto the model of keyboard it was intended for.

[zionip]

By doing so, all your currently installed expansion packs will be overwritten / wiped.  You really want to make sure that you have a backed up PPI or CPI file of your currently installed expansion pack(s) on your keyboard before loading the PPI file with which the contents you do not know from your USB stick.

[jexino]

Hi Zain

attached find you my StyleExtractor application that i wrote last year ;-)
This is a .Net program for extracting styles (inc. Audio Styles) from ppi / ppf packs. 

>>> Download StyleExtractor V1.0.0.5


Edit: New download link for StyleExtractor

[zionip]

Hi Zain

attached find you my StyleExtractor application that i wrote last year ;-)
This is a .Net program for extracting styles (inc. Audio Styles) from ppi / ppf packs. 

HI Jexino,

I forgot about your useful program that can extract contents from both ppi and ppf files.  It is very useful.

Thanks,
Paul

[Antonio]

Hallo Zionip

I would like to ask how to turn ca 250 Styles (sty files) into a ppi / ppf file in a way to have a style collection, always in the same place with a single file?

Thank you very much and Regards

[Antonio]

Hi Zain

attached find you my StyleExtractor application that i wrote last year ;-)
This is a .Net program for extracting styles (inc. Audio Styles) from ppi / ppf packs. 

Very useful, Jexino !

Many thanks

[zionip]

Hallo Zionip

I would like to ask how to turn ca 250 Styles (sty files) into a ppi / ppf file in a way to have a style collection, always in the same place with a single file?

Thank you very much and Regards

Antonio,

Please refer to Yamaha Expansion Manager Owner's Manual Page 9 "Creating Your Own Original Packs" for details:
https://usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/3/1136733/yamaha_expansion_manager_en_om_v250_h0.pdf

You can "Import contents" from other expansion packs through the corresponding PPF files, including voices and styles in the packs, to you own pack, but the YEM owner's manual did not mention whether or not it supports importing style files directly without going through the PPF files.

Thanks,
Paul

[Antonio]

Thanks Zionip, you are a true encyclopedia. Always accurate

[Joe H]

There is also YEM Content Explorer.  But it won't extract pack Voices.  If you want the Voices... you will have to get the .ppf (Project File) to load into the YEM.


http://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,43547.msg344073.html#msg344073

This program will extract every file in the pack but NOT pack Voices.

Joe H

[Antonio]

Wow, very nice, thank You and also Valimaties !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Joe H]

The YEM Content Explorer will also generate Voice Definition files for the MixMaster, PadMaker, and Padmaker-Midi, 

http://psrtutorial.com/MB/mixMaster.html

It will also generate Voice files for StyleMagic and MidiWorks from midisoft.pl.

http://www.midisoft.pl/en/

Joe H

[terryB]

Hi
But what is a CPF file ?
In my downloads of purchased packs from Yamaha, this is the file extension.
I have just downloaded a pack from easy sounds which includes both ppi and ppf, I assume I load the ppf file into extension manager    
Cheers
Terry

[Joe H]

Hi
But what is a CPF file ?
In my downloads of purchased packs from Yamaha, this is the file extension.
I have just downloaded a pack from easy sounds which includes both ppi and ppf, I assume I load the ppf file into extension manager    
Cheers
Terry

You can load the .ppf into Yamaha Expansion Manager (YEM) and load the .ppi directly into your keyboard, but as stated above if you load the .ppi into your keyboard, it will wipe-out all your current packs.  So... It is better to load the .ppf into YEM and combine that pack with any other packs you wish to have installed on your keyboard.  That is what YEM is for... to combine several packs into a single file that can be loaded into the keyboard.

Joe H

[overover]

... But what is a CPF file ?
In my downloads of purchased packs from Yamaha, this is the file extension. ...

Hi Terry,

CPF means "Crypted Project File". This is the copy protected format of Yamaha Premium Packs (and also of Packs from some other commercial manufacturers).

CPF files can be imported into YEM just like PPF files ("Pack Project File"). But the difference is, a CPF file can only be used on ONE paricular keyboard (for which it was created on the basis of the instrument info file of that keyboard).

BTW: In contrast to Packs that come in PPF format, you can NOT EDIT the Voices in a CPF Pack in YEM.


Best regards,
Chris

[terryB]

Thanks Chris and Joe, all is clear now 

Cheers
Terry

[nihal18]

Hello,
I downloaded the StyleExtractor_V1.0.0.4.zip and ran the .exe file.
I located the .ppi file in my hard drive, and it automatically provided the saved file location, but when I clicked the "extract" button, it ran a green bar but I did not see anything saved to my file location!
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks,
Nihal18

[overover]

... I downloaded the StyleExtractor_V1.0.0.4.zip and ran the .exe file.
I located the .ppi file in my hard drive, and it automatically provided the saved file location, but when I clicked the "extract" button, it ran a green bar but I did not see anything saved to my file location!
What am I doing wrong? ...

Hi Nihal18,

first of all, please download the updated (bugfixed) version 1.0.0.5 of "StyleExtractor" program:

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,44290.msg369236.html#msg369236


Are you talking of a .ppi file on your PC's hard drive, OR did you try to open the (very small) .ppi file that is in "Expansion" folder on your T5 hard disk e. g. in the User drive of your Genos?

That small .ppi file, located in "Expansion" folder (stored there when installing a .ppi file that was made when using "Save as Pack Install File" function in YEM), does NOT contain any Styles.


Best regards,
Chris

[bernamato]

Idea:
for each style inside the pack it could be nice to know which sound/voice is linked to. For example: main A is linked to sound/voice in the pack on the bass, chord 1, chord 2 etc., main B is linked to sound/voice in the pack for each part....etc.

[Patrick]

HI Jexino, thanks a lot for the update of your software 'Style Extractor V1.005"; Styles and voices can be called from USB and that's perfect for me: congratulations and have a nice week, cheers Patrick

[MinhPham]

Does anyone know where I can download StyleExtractor version 1.0.0.5? Thanks

[zionip]

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44290.0;attach=27363

[MinhPham]

zionip, thank you very much.

[MinhPham]

zionip,

I just used the Styleextractor and converted PPI file and its converted the file extension so .VCE. How do I convert to PPF or do you know YEP can read the .vce file?
Thanks

[MinhPham]

Does anyone know how to convert .VCE to .PPF? I used the Styleextractor and extracted .PPI file to .VCE. I have no idea what to do next.

[EileenL]

PPI files just can not be converted to PPF. You need to buy the pack that has PPF files on it.

[valimaties]

MinhPham...

Read HERE what means VCE...

VCE files are Modified voices sttings ONLY. Does not contain any of samples inside. If you look to file size you will see something like 2-3 Kb, or near. A sample voice has much bigger size, because contains waves samples inside.

There is NO software for know to extract voices from PPI or PPF files.
If PPI Extractor extracts VCE (really?! ) then Edited: you have to load this vce in Yamaha Expansion Manager as a content in a custom pack. But if you don't have the waves installed, the vce is useless.

Regards,
Vali

[MinhPham]

The YEP wont read .VEC. I got the PPI file but I only want couple sound from PPI, that's why I was trying to see if I can just select the one I want.